Comments for page "Alternative Specific Users Only" http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only Posts in the discussion thread "Alternative Specific Users Only" Wed, 22 Jul 2026 19:29:53 +0000 http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2443146 Re: Shortcut http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2443146 Thu, 21 Jan 2016 05:10:14 +0000 Joshua Darby 1974781 I meant in terms of just using the showto part

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2442629 Re: Shortcut http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2442629 Wed, 20 Jan 2016 08:01:07 +0000 Helmut_pdorf 17609 Yes, we are using this also on our community top bar menu: http://community.wikidot.com/nav:top

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2442260 Shortcut http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2442260 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:29:24 +0000 Joshua Darby 1974781 I have found that this works a lot better:

[[include :snippets:alt-suo |unique=first |type=showto |user1=joshua-darby]] [[module NewPage category="blog" parent="blog:_start" button="New post" size="25"]] [[=]] **__Admin__** [[button edit text="Edit page"]] [[button print text="Print page"]] [/nav:top/edit/true Edit topbar menu] [/nav:side/edit/true Edit sidebar menu] [/system:list-all-categories Page categories] [/system:recent-changes Recent changes] [/admin:themes Change theme] [[[/_admin|Manage site]]] **__Help__** [/help Wiki syntax] [/modules-reference Modules reference] [[/=]] [[/div]]

This example is taken from my personal blog ]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077682 (no title) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077682 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:46:55 +0000 RobElliott 111301 See the additions to my post above.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077680 (no title) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077680 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:39:45 +0000 Enrique Santos 1907574 That CSS is very good, Rob, I just mean about the 'suo' output, about HTML structure that we can not see on the visual output of that site.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077672 (no title) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077672 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:29:03 +0000 RobElliott 111301 I wrote the css for the community site and certainly don't recall adding related to the suo. For info the CSS for the top bar is:

Show CSS

and the nav top syntax is:

Show Nav Top Syntax

It's a very old and tired design now and the next version, currently being worked on (I think) by Timothy will be bootstrap/mobile friendly and more modern.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077663 (no title) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077663 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:09:14 +0000 Enrique Santos 1907574 I mean that the CSS of Community site theme allows to show different <ul> on the same menu level, while my theme CSS puts a different <ul> in another line of menu.

I. e., Community site has two <ul> on the main menu, one for most of submenus and another one just for "Internals" submenu. It is just because of CSS visualization that it seems to be only one main menu, while in fact they are two unordered lists, the second one enclosed on his own <div>, indeed.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077635 (no title) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077635 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:46:53 +0000 RobElliott 111301

the Community site works fine because of CSS

There were no css changes made on the community site to accommodate the suo snippet.There are just 2 suo snippets one after the other with different menu options: one for normal users using hidefrom plus the names of the admins, and one for normal users using showto plus the names of the admins.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077607 (no title) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077607 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:09:22 +0000 Enrique Santos 1907574 Ok, I analysed it further. The 'suo' snippet is working properly, it generates a [[div class="suo-specific-class …"]], so that the wiki interpreter closes the previous <ul>, and a new <ul> is opened (in the menu example).

So it seems not possible to keep on the same <li> chain with a 'suo' snippet inside :-( (the Community site works fine because of CSS, but the submenu "Internals" is on another <ul>, not in the same as the rest of submenus).

Anyway, the 'alt-suo' snippet adds the following extra output before the main 'alt-suo' div, in fact there are two "suo-specific-class" divs for each snippet in the source:

<div class="list-pages-box"> </div> <div class="suo-specific-class suo-enrique-santos suo-normaluser"> <p>.</p> </div>

(sometimes a different output, probably Timothy is working on it, thumbs up!).
I'm using the solution proposed by Timothy with 'alt-suo' snippet, it works fine ('suo' doesn't show anything to anonymous users).

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077302 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077302 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 00:58:35 +0000 Enrique Santos 1907574 Great!, now it works as you say: it displays the version with "type=hidefrom" when the page doesn't exist (not the correct, but not a problem). The problem did not arise at the Community site because it uses redirection for non-existent pages.

Thank you, Timothy!
(maybe you could look into the SUO/ALT-SUO code further to see why it outputs an extra empty line at the beginning?)

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077296 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077296 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 00:15:15 +0000 Timothy Foster 197988 I believe I have alleviated the problem, so it doesn't look as bad; it should display the non-administrative options.

The error was occurring because the snippet depends on a ListPages module that searches for the current page. If the page doesn't exist, then ListPages cannot find that page, and hence certain things fail to hold.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077280 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077280 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:41:18 +0000 Timothy Foster 197988 It seems like there was a small bug the SUO code. I changed it, and it seems to be behaving properly on my test site now. Is it looking good on yours?

Scratch that; there was a reason I had that code there! I'll look into it further later today.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077215 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077215 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:25:18 +0000 RobElliott 111301 Something's not right because you can see a closing module code in the image you posted. You might want to consider inviting one of us admins to be a temporary admin of your site to look into this and hopefully solve it. We do this quite a lot and never trash a site and then resign when the issue is resolved.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2077214 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2077214 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:21:40 +0000 Enrique Santos 1907574 Oh!, not so good :( , this solution doesn't work properly when the page does not exist. In that case both versions of the menu are showed to any user, and both are out of proper position:

TwQGWOT.png

I suppose that my CSS theme is not perfect also, but it only shows what exist, so the output of the two consecutive alt-suo snippets is not the desired output.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2076927 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2076927 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 06:27:05 +0000 Helmut_pdorf 17609 ok, that is bad if the default/theme CSS is the reason for this extra line.

It is a lot of work to find out where in your used CSS the reason lies….

I think, the solution of Timothy is easier to use. :)

( but you can move the redundant menu-lines put in an extra "include:Nav-top-open" to have it only once…? )

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2076733 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2076733 Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:48:04 +0000 Enrique Santos 1907574 Helmut, I copy-pasted the source of the top menu in community.wikidot.com (as a test) and the problem is the same, the menu "Internal" goes down, out of the menu bar.

I think that it is the theme CSS on community site which prevents the problem. But the problem is there, you can see the extra line if you look the html page generated with "Preview" when editing.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2076731 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2076731 Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:36:16 +0000 Enrique Santos 1907574 Near to perfect! :-) , thank you!, this solution works fine.

The small problem now is redundant information and double edition when changing common options in menus, but it works. I just wonder if the module can be corrected easily, or is it an unavoidable effect.

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2076494 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2076494 Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:23:40 +0000 Helmut_pdorf 17609 I would do it like our top-menu in the community forum with a "normal" mdnu point "Internal" and under this menu-string there are different entries for admins and normal users..
This prevents us from this empty line I beleve
Put any "normal" page for normal users in this menu…

]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2076344 Re: Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2076344 Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:28:30 +0000 Timothy Foster 197988 One thing you can try is to use two of these modules. The first one will use showto to show you the administrative options, and the other will use hidefrom to hide the non-administrative options. Essentially, you would have two copies of the top bar, but one will be viewable by you, and the other will be visible to the public.

The following code should do the trick:

[[include :snippets:alt-suo |unique=normalusers |type=hidefrom |user=enrique-santos]] * [/ Portada] * [# Acerca de] * [/main:bienvenida Bienvenida] * [/main:criterios Criterios] * [/main:motivacion Motivación] * [/system:members Miembros] * [/blog:_start Artículos] [!-- * [/docs:_start Documentación] * [/wiki:_start Wiki] --] * [# Acciones] * [[button edit text="Modificar página"]] * [[button print text="Imprimir página"]] * [# Ayuda] * [/help Sintaxis wiki] * [/modules-reference Referencia de módulos] [[include :snippets:alt-suo]] [[include :snippets:alt-suo |unique=admins |type=showto |user=enrique-santos]] * [/ Portada] * [# Acerca de] * [/main:bienvenida Bienvenida] * [/main:criterios Criterios] * [/main:motivacion Motivación] * [/system:members Miembros] * [/blog:_start Artículos] [!-- * [/docs:_start Documentación] * [/wiki:_start Wiki] --] * [# Acciones] * [[button edit text="Modificar página"]] * [[button print text="Imprimir página"]] * [# Ayuda] * [/help Sintaxis wiki] * [/modules-reference Referencia de módulos] * [# Administración] * [/nav:top/edit/true Modificar el menú] * [/system:list-all-categories Ver por categorías] * [/system:paginas-ocultas Páginas ocultas] * [/admin:themes Temas visuales] * [/_admin Administrar sitio] [[include :snippets:alt-suo]]
]]> http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986#post-2076321 Not perfect (yet) http://snippets.wikidot.com/forum/t-746986/alternative-specific-users-only#post-2076321 Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:45:11 +0000 Enrique Santos 1907574 I tried this solution to hide "Administration" menu to all users except administrator (me). It works quite fine, but not perfectly, because it inserts an empty line before the module, so that "Administration" menu goes to another line down the main menu. I also tried the original SUO snippet, and it has the same problem.

I wish that it is an easy to solve problem.

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